(from Melody Maker - December 2, 1995 - page 35 - written by Simon Price)
If you like St. Etienne, Stereolab and Dubstar, you'll love The Cardigans,
Sweden's leading sugar-pop weirdos. Simon Price hails their happy sad
music. Knit-wit: Jamie Reid.
Ah, The Cardigans. Aren't you the happiest band on earth? "I don't think
that we're any happier than any other band."
This is Nina Persson. Nina has been compared to : Honor Blackman, Astrud
Gilberto, Nancy Sinatra, Jane Birkin, Doris Day, Mary Quant, Sandie Shaw,
and Lady Penelope off "Thunderbirds."
"Every song has some sort of a melancholic feeling." This is Magnus. He
supports Tottenham Hotspur.
Nina: "Even the songs which are naive and really happy are exaggerated.
Because nobody's that happy". And she sighs.
The Cardigans are: fur collars pulled tight against the snow, a wistful
glance over the shoulder, Super 8 film faded from Technicolor to
watercolour, the only car on the road as the sun rises over the Cote D'Azur,
photographs torn petulantly into quarters and left in the ashtray. The
adjective being happysad.
I'm sitting in a darkened tour bus, on the Rue De Voltaire in Paris'
troisieme. (It's the exact same spot where, one year ago, I interviewed
Richey Edwards. Which is freaking me out to no small degree.)
"Sweden are quite melancholic compared to Italian people," says Peter, who
writes the songs. "Maybe because the sun is dark. And there are so few
people that sometimes you're on your own a lot."
Maybe it's the Cardigans' isolation from the swing of things which has
helped them sound so attractively alien.
Nina: "Actually, there's always been a splendid music scene in Sweden."
"But we're quite amazed that Melody Maker are interested in us. Even two
years ago, if a Swedish band got a review at all, it'd be..."
Magnus: "Polar bears, saunas, suicide..."
Nina: "...Abba, Ace of Base and free sex."
The Cardigans' music makes me think of many things, but Sweden is never one
of them.
"Actually, you're wrong. In the Sixties inn Sweden, there were many serious
jazz musicians who turned away from arty jazz and made music for children's
TV programmes. We're influenced by that and, when Swedish people hear 'Sick
And Tired', they get it."
Peter: "We grew up with those programmes. My girlfriend and I talk about
nothing else."
Magnus: "I think you have quite a weird relationship."
Nina: "Sixties children's TV and Death Folk! That's The Cardigans."
"From Luxembourg to Rome, from Berlin to the moon/From Paris to Lucerne,
from Athens to the sun/Our car became a spacecraft, flashing through the
world..." - Daddy's Car"
Incidental thought: if we are to value anything in our pop groups as we
enter the second half of the decade, it must not be the bankrupt currency of
"soul" or "honest", but a certain imagination. A certain life of the mind.
You know what I'm saying.
"I HATE that song!" Nina hisses. "It sounds like...a mushroom! I'm glad
you like it, though." It's the line about the car becoming a spacecraft
that really gets me.
Peter: "..and do we use drugs?"
Nina: "Yes, we do. Ha, ha, ha. No, we don't."
That honestly never occurred to me. It's the romance of travel that I hear.
Peter: "I've been Interrailing a lot, and I tried to find cities that
rhymed. It wasn't easy. Lucerne with Moon was a bit forced." (Their
favourite exotic place names are: San Marino, Monaco, Marrakesh, Caracas and
London).
Nina: "Actually, being on tour is like being in a spacecraft. Because every
morning you wake up in a different city. It doesn't feel like traveling.
We didn't know that when we wrote that song, though..."
Magnus: "But we found the truth inside."
As children, we slide into fantasy worlds where every man with a briefcase
is a spy and every flash in the sky is a spaceship. As adults, this skill
is lost. To some.
Nina: "Fantasy? Any sort of art needs that."
Magnus: "Lying is cool. I lie to my girlfriend sometimes. That's a sign of
a good imagination. Among other things."
Nina: "I used to lie a lot when I was younger. I'd tell stories to people
about my dog, and I didn't have one." Really? I did exactly the same thing
myself. "Nina is always talking about her dreams," Magnus complains.
"They're...wicked."
"I am obsessed," she admits. "I tell everybody. I am convinced they are
important in some way."
Magnus: "They're always about your boyfriend."
Nina: "NO! They're no!"
Nina describes a recurring nightmare involving a concrete room and a basket
full of eels. Magnus insists her last dream had her "running naked with 50
black guys through Nigeria."
"Sometimes it's, 'Nina, don't take those drugs before you go to bed.'"
Nina: "My life is only interesting when I go to sleep."
Magnus: "I think you need professional help."
The instruments used on The Cardigans' marvelous longplayer, "Life" - which
they think is "very emotional" and "appeals to sensitive hearts" -:
glockenspiel, fingers, melodica, hands, viola, feet, triangle, pernod
bottles and something called an angelpiano.
As I said once before, while most bands in these pages merely rock, The
Cardigans swing. In this respect, their peers are Pizzicato Five, My Life
Story, the Stereolab of "Ping Pong", and Saint Etienne (Magnus, who owns all
Saint Etienne's records, is mightily impressed to be sitting next to the
composer of "Memo To Pricey"). The sound, it must be said, is unmistakably
SIXTIES.
But where most of today's slowcoaches are busy mining the sterile earth of
Sixties ROCK - the stuff that has never had the decency to leave us alone -
what make The Cardigans so oddly contemporary is their fascination with
half-forgotten Sixties POP.
Magnus: "I think that trend should have been killed two years ago: Primal
Scream trying to sound like The Rolling Stones. I hat rock'n'roll. I can't
play rock'n'roll, and Nina can't sing it - her voice is too.."
Nina: "Beautiful. Classic."
Magnus: "We aren't an Academy Of The Sixties. I'm the oldest guy in the
band and I was born in 1972, so..."
Nina: "We pick out the romantic stuff. The glamorous images. We're
building our distorted fantasy version of what the Sixties were about from
what we've seen on film and TV. Our own...soap opera."
To describe music as "cinematic" is Cliche #5 in the Journalist's Big Book
Of Cliches. But The Cardigans (favourite films: "Return Of The Pink
Panther", "Switchblade Sisters", the works of Luis Bunuel) actually set out
with this effect in mind.
Peter: "The songs on 'Life' are supposed to be like abstract Sixties short
cuts. When I start writing, I have the whole picture already made in my
head before I've even found a chord."
At this point, somebody says the satanic word "kitsch".
Nina: "It bothers me. I think kitsch is a rude thing to say. We aren't
doing this for a joke."
Magnus: "Jarvis thinks we are. He said so in a Swedish paper. It's a
shame. We like Pulp. I think Jarvis should meet us, and find that we're
really beautiful people."
Peter: "We're kitsch, but we're not super-kitsch. The first album we made,
'Emmerdale', was like yogurt: healthy, natural, but maybe boring. So we
decided everything on 'Life' had to be over the top."
The conversation takes a few detours. First right for The Cardigans'
celebrated Heavy Metal cover versions.
Nina: "We talked about doing a Lovin' Spoonful song or 'The Girl From
Ipanema', but it was simply too obvious to do them."
So they did "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", "Mr. Crowley" and "The Boys Are Back
In Town".
Peter: "People think we're making fun. Actually, we're saying 'Open your
mind and...'"
Nina: "Free your ass! It's a... tribute."
Magnus: "Nina knows a lot of difficult English words, you know."
Nina: "'Difficult' is a good one, too."
Peter: "Your really can't argue with that. 'Difficult' is a difficult word."
Second left for being Big In Japan (alright... tonight...)
Magnus: "We've sold half a million in Japan, you know. Actually, that's an
'interesting lie'."
Nina: "I think the reason we're ultra-fashionable in Japan isn't the songs,
but the picture of me on the cover. Japanese kids understand style. They
appreciate things which look... perfect." (She is dressed as an ice skater.
The others: a spy, a gymnast, a boxer, a U-boat captain).
Handbrake U-turn for Supporting Blur On Tour. "I think Blur think we are
antisocial. They think we don't like them. Maybe they ere expecting us to
be in their dressing room, hanging on their trousers: "OH, DAMON, DAMON!'"..
(In the alley, a hundred Parisiennes in Chelsea shirts are chanting exactly
that).
"If you see them, tell them we're really nice. We're just shy. The only
time I've seen them relaxed was walking down the Reperbahn (Hamburg's
world-famous sex precinct). I think it's quite difficult for them, with all
these young girls screaming."
Nina: "Oh it muse be terrible."
Still no closer to pinpointing the mild but pervading weirdness at the heart
of this group. Then Nina says... "Our town is the religious centre of
Sweden. There are 52 different churches, factions and sects, from orthodox
religions to Jehovah's Witnesses. It's called Sweden's Jerusalem. Growing
up there is strange. I feel the strangeness all the time."
Malmo. Famous for losing the European Cup to Nottingham Forest in 1980, and
having a funny name. "Among young religious people, our town is really hip.
Nobody listens to The Smiths or The Stone Roses. It's all Christian rock.
Toto. There is no scene. You have a choice: play sport, or go to church."
"The leader of the biggest church - the Pindskierke - said he wanted the
whole town to be religious. How? Make the atheists leave."
She goes all misty for a moment.
"The Cardigans is my salvation."
Death Folk, Sixties kids' TV, national melancholia, satanic metal covers and
Christian fundamentalism. Suddenly, it all makes sense.